Monday, March 1, 2010

Seek and Ye Shall Find (a Threaded Discussion Add-on for Your Blog)

Some of you are using the discussion feature on your SWIFT site to communicate with parents. (If you want to learn more about using the discussion feature of SWIFT, see page nine of the SWIFT User Guide.) However, one of the limitations of the SWIFT discussion feature is that the discussions aren’t threaded. This means that as parents post comments, the comments simply appear in chronological order, making it difficult for the teacher to respond to a particular comment that may have appeared early on in the discussion. Threaded discussions allow people to respond to particular comments; they allow the conversation to branch off into different directions. Specifically, your reply to a particular comment appears directly below that comment, tabbed over.

Unfortunately, Blogger (the tool we’re using for this class/blog) also doesn’t offer threaded discussions, making it difficult for me (or you) to reply directly to someone’s comment. However, a solution has been found! I have added a program to our blog that will now allow for threaded commenting from this point forward on the blog. Sweet. You’ll notice when you comment this week that the interface looks a little different—but fear not, all you’ll need to do is type in your name and email address when you post your comment. (And, if you see someone else’s comment you’d like to comment on, go ahead—that can count as your comment.)

So this week’s lesson has two themes (see below). Chose one to comment on this week (each theme has two prompts to choose from).

Theme 1: Using online discussions (SWIFT or other tool) with students or parents
a. If you have experience with online discussions, what tips do you have to share? What have been the benefits?
OR
b. What might be some ways you could incorporate online discussions into your class? If you’re new to this tool, what questions do you have for those who already use it?

Theme 2: If you believe it should be possible, it probably is—all you have to do is look.
(Back story: I knew Blogger didn’t offer threaded discussions, but I figured that I’m not the only person who wished it did, so I Googled “adding threaded discussion to Blogger.” That led me to a blog post about third party applications I could add to the blog to increase interactivity. That’s where I learned about Intense Debate—the application I’m using to provide threaded discussion for our class on this blog. The rest, my friends, is history.

I offer this as evidence that there is a solution out there for most of our challenges if we look and are willing to invest in a little risk taking. If I had seen this issue as a problem, I might have just begrudgingly accepted my plight (no threaded commenting) and would not have investigated further. However, I felt comfortable taking matters into my own hands and did some self-directed learning—something I think we (and our students) are going to be expected to do more and more of in this new digital world. In my role, I am confronted by this reality day after day, yet every time I am amazed and delighted. What about you?

a. Share a time you went online with a question/challenge and “taught” yourself how to do something new.
OR
b. Do it now . . . what’s a question/challenge you have in your class right now? Go online and look for your solution. How did it go?

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Kim Fitzpatrick · 788 weeks ago

Wow, great theme(s) this week. I truly want to engage kids and move them toward inquiry-oriented and active learning, but I can't always find the time to do that during my workday. My challenge: converting videos to DVD (digital format) for social studies CBA presentations. Solution: PC World.com says I need a firewire on my PC and then I can use Windows Movie Maker to import video from the camcorder to my computer to do some editing and then burn a DVD. Sounds pretty simple. I didn't have the time to try it this time, so we hooked up a Rube-Goldberg style plumbing system to get by. Not pretty, but it worked. I found a couple of really great tech help sites to bookmark.
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Jessica Cooper · 788 weeks ago

Question 2a:

Students in my class have been working on PowerPoint presentations that teach about a national park they are researching. We have been fortunate to use the netbooks and the additional time that netbooks allow students to work on their presentations has caused them to become more curious and adventurous with the things they can do with PowerPoint. One group wanted to embed a video of their park, so I helped them search for a video and we found one on You Tube that they liked. After that, I didn't really know what to do, so I searched Bing for "embed a video into powerpoint" and I was led to several videos that showed how. From there I learned how to add the "Developer" ribbon in PowerPoint and was able to follow the directions. However, I made one mistake so it did not work. After talking with Christine I was able to quickly find my error and embed the video! I will be the group that had asked how to do this will be learning how this afternoon. I am excited that my own lack of knowledge will not be holding back my students. Now I just need to figure out how to embed a video found on a different website other than youtube...
1 reply · active 787 weeks ago
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Molly Klemkow · 788 weeks ago

This year I have used googleing something a couple of times. One example would be when a student is asking for something like the Eiffel tower which I don't have a picture. So I googled Eiffel tower picture and found millions. I printed one out and made it the background on my computer. This started a phenomenon in my room. Everyone wanted a picture of the Eiffel tower. Then everyone started making Eiffel towers and wanting to hang them from the ceiling. It was awesome! I was so excited to know that at the touch of key on my key board I was able to get my kids engaged with each other and using their imaginations. It sparked a month long discussion of where, how, when, and what the Eiffel tower is.
The other way I have used Google is to find preschool resources and ideas. I have found numerous preschool workbooks that I feel would be great for my students and working on their academic pre-kindergarten skills but all of them have a copyright which means I can’t make copies. So I used Google and found some many free resources that work great. My kids love them!
The internet is amazing and there is so much to be found!
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Amy Cassady · 788 weeks ago

Topic 1a.

I belong to an online motorcycle "club" that is dedicated only to the type of motorcycle I have. It's great because they have a list of discussion topics that range from great places to ride, to modifications that you can do to your motorcycle or even reputable places to have work done or buy parts.

One thing that I found out after trial and error and a sound scolding by some of the people on the site, is that if you want to comment to a discussion thread, be sure to read all of the comments before making your comment. I made the mistake of reading the first question or comment and then just going to the end to put in my two cents. Oh, the ridicule I got for being a "newbie". Ugh.

The benefits are that you can get information faster just by reading the comments made by other people without having to do the research on the internet yourself. I've gotten some really great ideas about modifications we could do to my bike and all of the pitfalls that others had while attempting this. So there... that's my two cents! :-)
3 replies · active 787 weeks ago
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Melissa Morlock · 788 weeks ago

2a.
Embedding Videos into a Blog

I regularly use the internet to teach myself things that I don't know or research and troubleshoot technology issues. I have recently started a blog for my classroom and I have wanted to include videos or online tools like voicethread in my blog posts. I have been to other blogs where I authors have voicethreads or videos embedded, so I knew it could be done. Today was the day I decided to try it. I looked within Voicethread first and found that they have a tool to embed; you just choose the application you want to embed to. That didn't work for me, instead I had to copy and paste the code. I was able to search within Blogger to find the directions to do this. It is really fun to have a voicethread that the kids are working on right there in our blog.
1 reply · active 788 weeks ago
I would like to know how to use blogging for students to respond to students at the elementary level and wondering if that is possible given the restraints for accessing the internet. I am thinking students could problem solve issues within the classroom and give their ideas. Another application would be to respond to literature much like the Reader's Workshop literature circles. However, a criteria for completing reading for the day would be to add a "thoughtful" comment about their reading. Then I'd have to do research how to set it up.
2 replies · active 786 weeks ago
I had a challenge while my students were creating PowerPoint slide show reports on dinosuars. I didn't know how to get pictures for the students to copy to their slides. I knew that they shouldn't get them online themselves. My solution was to copy pictures of their particular dinosaurs from Google into a folder on the public drive. From there they were able to copy and paste to their reports.
I (like Jan) have toyed around with the idea of using a blog as a way for students to share their literature circle ideas with each other. I also think it would fun to have a discussion thread where the students can help eachother with homework or information about whats going on in school. I think what is holding me back is the time to set it up ans maintain it and the rules for students under 13 on the internet.
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Corrie Blechschmidt · 788 weeks ago

Just last weekend my home computer was 'infected' with a virus. I didn't realize the problem right away, just had a hunch. So I slowly made my way to the internet, viruses really can slow progress, and through searching and googling I identified the virus and how to debug the machine. I felt like an all-star and clearly remember the days I would have given up and turned to an expert.
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I wouldn't mind trying the Discussion thread on my SWIFT site, but I have a few questions. For those of you who use the discussion thread on your site, how much time do you spend posting questions and reading responses for a typical classroom of 25-30 students? About how many students respond to the questions? Also how do you handle inappropriate responses? Has anyone in PE or music used the discussion thread? If so, what did you notice? When teaching over 400 students in a specialist environment, I'm wondering if any students would even bother to respond.
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cheryl reilly · 788 weeks ago

A couple weeks ago, I volunteered to create a website for our community country club. Totally foreign to me, I'd be forced to learn! I bought a web domain, designed the website, and am now "webmaster." So I did it!__www.mirrormontcountryclub.org__I know there is WAY more to learn! It's a work in progress.__With youtube, google, blogs (and late nights)... anything is possible.
3 replies · active 778 weeks ago
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Tenaya Williams · 788 weeks ago

Here I am teaching my first year in a first grade classroom. It seems like every day we are celebrating something and the photo opportunities are plentiful. I have accumulated over two hundred “priceless” photos that I know my families would enjoy, and while a BLOG would be a logical choice for sharing photos, I’m wrestling with the idea of creating a digital memory book to give away at the end of the year. I hesitate because seven years ago I created a DVD for a family event and I distinctly recall wanting to pull my hair out! I used Movie Maker and downloading music, and timing it with the photos took more time than I care to say. The end result however, was WONDERFUL. After exploring the Movie Maker link that Christine Thurston mentioned I’ve decided to give it a try. I will start now….ha ha. The tutorial is made for technologically challenged people like me. It has simple instructions and pictures!!!!
1 reply · active 787 weeks ago
I've been involved in threaded discussions in the past. When I've taken online classes, their discussion boards are most often threaded discussions. The thing I've noticed about this kind of discussion is that one person may post a comment that in turn generates lots of other comments. What I've seen happen is that the thread often drifts away from the original topic and ends up in whole new place. So, my advice would be to make sure you are staying on topic, as well as keep your comments brief.
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Tina McDaniel · 788 weeks ago

I took many online classes and like Diane, the "discussion" in class was a threaded discussion. The one problem I found is that if you are one of the first people to "post" a comment, then you are dependent on the others to respond to you first or dependent on others to respond in general if your grade depends on posting a comment to that response. (oye confusing!). However, threaded discussions have the opportunity for students to be thoughtful in replies as a classroom setting and think about what the response should entail vs a classroom setting where the response may need to be instantaneous and not always thought out.
Since I do teach first grade, I think online discussions may pose a challenge (haha) but I do know that in the upper grades, a homework assignment could be to post online versus turning in the assignment in class. Especially for any type of research/response based question that may pose higher level thinking for students to respond to and to each other.

As for using the internet to research a problem or to learn something new--I did that most recently when my dishwasher stopped working. I found a site that showed the most common malfunctions for my dishwasher type, style, manufacturer, etc. I was able to take it apart with the step by step directions and it had a link to the part that I needed. So now, I am ordering the part and hopefully all will turn out well and I will have a working dishwasher! :)
2 replies · active 779 weeks ago
Theme 2A I read Melissa's comment with great interest. I keep finding questions that I want answered and need more information than just 'googling' it. While I like my swift site, I want to do more - not quite a blog (yet). For somet ime I have had an idea to share more than pictures with my parents. It has simply taken asking, asking and more asking questions to anyone who is around an I think I can now try to use the video feature of my laptop to record class activites/students reading, etc.
I needed to spell check before sending off previous post. Blaming 'report carditis' for that one. :-)
Since I am posting so late on Sunday, I thought I'd attempt a paraphrasing comment
To me, the themes which arose from this week's discussion...of the themes were
a) using tech in your personal life can be a great way to practice and learn before we attempt things in our classrooms (like when I started a few blogs for family and friends before starting with classroom)
b) you have to take a few risks and make a few mistakes as you learn (like using edublogs and then discovering that they highlight key words and put pop-up advertising on to your blog--icky)
c) ask Christine Thurston. ;)
1 reply · active 786 weeks ago
Well it's my first year back and everything is new - so I feel like I'm constantly online looking for suggestions/ideas/solutions. I mostly just do simple Google searches and can find what I need. Currently, our curriculum measures student progress with Lexile reading comprehension scores but only measures at the beginning and end of the year. With progress reports coming up, I really needed something to assess student progress now. I want to use Lexile scores, but still can't find a way to get one without using our currrent "end of the year" test I already have and don't want to use. I did ,however, find a ton of information on Lexiles and feel even better about using them to report progress to parents. I just wish I could find a way to monitor more frequently. I'll have to keep searching and see what I can find. Until then, I'm happy with all the new things I've learned about Lexile scores!
I think this could be very beneficial to my group of speech kids. This could be a very useful way to engage parents and provide homework ideas or network parents of kids with special needs to each other.
So to answer the questions, I think my personal tip is to be aware of what you write. I learned the lesson of typing a comment on a friends blog that I wish I could of taken back. But, like I said I think this could be very beneficial for putting out assignments of ideas of how to support you child in the speech world. We are also more disconnected from parents, so this could be a way of engaging them and answering their questions.
I have also designed a personal web page for doing private speech therapy. I used a site that supported you through this role. But it was a lot more challenging than I thought it would be. I think that we, as lookers of web pages, take for granted ALL the information that is on a page to make it look complete. It took much more work than I expected! The support was also not what I thought it would be and so I was forced to figure out how to make the page more interactive. This class would of really helped!!!
2 replies · active 786 weeks ago
I am getting better about searching the internet for solutions to problems that I may have. I am the administrator of three websites that I have created for people who are/have been sick. I also have a family blog and another family website, I have had to troubleshoot to find out how to do some things on these. At times, I have gotten frustrated because there was too much trial and error. Now, I am getting better, but for lack of time, do not fancy them up too much. They are all pretty basic. I did just figure out how to cut and paste for a different background on one of them. Boy is it cute now. :) Truly, I would like to be better at searching for things that I need. I get too impatient. My up and coming goal.....figure out how to take a part of a video that I recorded of my son and be able to just paste that part somewhere else.
I wish I had more time in my day to explore and just click around. That seems like a huge way I have become more comfortable and knowledgeable about the internet/media/social networking. I am a HUGE fan of 'googling' or 'binging'!! I truly appreciate all the resources available at the click of a button regarding countless topics. Recently, I was trying to compile 'easy to understand' explanations of how to articulate various speech sounds. As I googled this topic I came across so many blogs from moms or other speech therapists that had clear instructions that I could adapt for my own purposes. Even more recently, I've been watching Youtube for speech therapy ideas as well. Oh....I'm also a huge fan of wikipedia. We certainly are in the information age!!
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Renae Hanson · 787 weeks ago

I've been on this blog three times this week with the intent of researching something new and informing everyone of my great find. Here it is Monday morning and I haven't taken the time to find something new SOOOOO - I better just get my comment in. I can think of two times that I used google to solve my own tech-related problem. 1) A couple of years ago my images were being displayed upside down (from the projector). I googled the projector model and typed in "images displaying upside down" and it walked me right through it. 2) I use Contribute to manage the Glacier Park website. Recently my laptop went kaput and needed to be reimaged. During the reimage I lost my "connection" and I really didn't want to bother Jim with it (he had helped me set up the connection in the past). So after a little research - I was able to figure it out all by myself...hooray!
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Beth Belmondo · 787 weeks ago

I make a lot of movies in Windows movie maker (for my kids and just myself personally). When I got Windows7 for my computer it completely changed movie maker and took away some of the key features I liked about the program. I was getting really frustrated until I decided to go online and see if anyone else had found solutions to the bugs with the new movie maker - at first I just found many forums with posts about the same complaints I had, but after following a few links I found an old version that was compatible with Windows7. When I was reading the post above it reminded me of this instance - I thought "I can't be the only one who misses the old movie maker program!" And sure enough,
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Ruth Cerna · 787 weeks ago

I really like discussions when troubleshooting tech issues. It is time consuming but usually pays off. Recently I fixed an old Dell computer that had been sitting in my closet for about 2 years. I used my laptop to search for fixes and did it! Very empowering!
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I would like to have more discussion as a part of our classroom blog as well. I started this quite recently, then was out for training so my class and I didn't get the opportunity to post for 3 weeks (in addition to our break). I have been trying to get parents more involved again, but feel like we've lost the stamina. I'm looking for more ways to foster that home/school connection through the blog. At this point, we're using our blog as a way to express students' thoughts and summarize what we're learning about in a consise manner. I'm still looking for more...

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